What’s On:
Leading into Light
Leadership in Church Music
The RSCM is thrilled to present Leading into Light, our 2025 online Church Music Leadership Conference!
Join us for an inspiring day of sessions led by a diverse range of contributors, exploring different aspects of leadership – from local and young leaders to clergy and even those who never saw themselves as leaders.
This day will provide practical advice and approaches rooted in a narrative that, whatever your personal experience and skill level, these things really matter and all play their part in enabling church music to flourish. In a challenging world, we are working to bring some hope and joy.
The conference will be hosted online live with interactive elements, but if you can’t join on the day, your ticket allows you to catch up later at your convenience.
Join us and buy your ticket for as little as £39.00 (RSCM Members) or £45.00 (Full Price). Members can use their discount code to claim the discount.
Live Interview with Sir James MacMillan – Celebrated composer and conductor Sir James MacMillan will be ‘in conversation’ with RSCM’s Director Hugh Morris, sharing his views on topics including the role of music in worship. Not to be missed!
Details
Timetable
Each session will last 35–45 mins and will include a short Q&A. There will be two tea breaks and a lunch break slot.
10am – Introduction and Welcome from Hugh Morris
10.05am – Music as Mission: Giving the Church a Voice
The Dean of Chapel at St John’s College The Revd Canon Dr Vicky Johnson, Cambridge explores how music can be harnessed as a missional tool for the church.
10.50am – Sir James MacMillan in conversation with Hugh Morris, RSCM Director
Live Interview with Sir James MacMillan – Celebrated composer and conductor Sir James MacMillan will be ‘in conversation’ with RSCM’s Director Hugh Morris, sharing his views on topics including the role of music in worship. Not to be missed!
11.30am – BREAK
11.45am – Local Leadership
Join Richard Hubbard in exploring how local leadership can encourage musicians to make inspiring music in worship. Discover how to engage your congregation’s gifts and potential.
12.30pm – The Reluctant Leader: From Choir Stalls to Conductor
Watch a curated panel discussion on navigating the transition to leadership in music. Gain insights from Dr Tim Williams, Lucy Adcock, Katy Cooper, and Eleanor Jarvis.
1.15pm – LUNCH
2pm – Music Leadership: ‘Two Heads are Better Than One’
Presented live from the National Musicians Church, Holy Sepulchre, London.
Join us for a conversation with The Revd Sandy Clarke and Director of Music Jordan Theis (St Thomas on the Bourne, Farnham), and The Revd Canon David Fisher and Director of Music Antony Matthews (All Saints’ Carshalton) on how clergy and music leaders can work in synergy. Sharing case studies showing how both ‘sides’ as they are so often characterised as can work together successfully as a team.
This session is presented in partnership with Holy Sepulchre, and also forms part of their in-person conference on music and spirituality: “Musical Mission: Music and Spirituality Conference 2025”
3pm – BREAK
3.15pm – Learning Through Teaching: Rethinking Leadership
Experienced choral director, and RSCM Chief Examiner Adrian Lucas explores practical approaches for incorporating questioning into work with choirs and singers, fostering their skills as ‘thinking musicians’ and encouraging their musical independence.
4pm – Young People as Leaders, Not Followers
We will be joined by Hannah Persaud from the Growing Faith team from the Church of England who will discuss approaches and strategies that unlock the leadership potential of young people and empower them to find their voice.
The RSCM is also delighted, as part of this online conference, to be working in partnership with the National Musicians Church, Holy Sepulchre, London. The session on clergy and musicians working together will be streamed from within HSL’s in-person day on music and spirituality, and will be chaired by the church’s Director of Music, Peter Asprey.
‘This is an excellent example of organisations working together for shared aims. We as RSCM wanted to give time to this important topic of whole-church leadership for music and worship, and it aligns so closely with the in-person session that Holy Sepulchre had planned for the same date; through our online conference we are able to bring this discussion to delegates, no matter from where in the world they will be joining us.’ Hugh Morris, RSCM Director
‘We are delighted to be working in tandem with the RSCM. In our role as the Musicians’ Church, we share the values of choral excellence, enhancing choral music in worship and helping people to encounter God through music. As such we feel that these two conferences on leadership and spirituality complement each other beautifully.’ Peter Asprey, Holy Sepulchre Church.
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Conference Speakers
Sir James Macmillan
Sir James MacMillan is one of today’s most successful composers and performs internationally as a conductor. His musical language is flooded with influences from his Scottish heritage, Catholic faith, social conscience and close connection with Celtic folk music.
MacMillan first became internationally recognised after the success of The Confession of Isobel Gowdie at the BBC Proms in 1990. His music has since been performed and broadcast around the world. Major works include percussion concerto Veni, Veni, Emmanuel, a cello concerto for Mstislav Rostropovich and five symphonies. Recent works include his Christmas Oratorio premiered by the London Philharmonic in 2021, and Timotheus, Bacchus and Cecilia premiered by the Cincinnati Symphony in 2023.
MacMillan enjoys a successful career as a conductor, and is praised for the composer’s insight he brings to each score. Conducting highlights include the Rotterdam Philharmonic, Munich Philharmonic, Danish Radio Symphony, Gothenburg Symphony, Netherlands Radio Philharmonic, Frankfurt Radio Symphony, St Louis Symphony, Baltimore Symphony and BBC Symphony. He was Principal Guest Conductor of the Netherlands Radio Chamber Philharmonic until 2013 and Composer/Conductor of the BBC Philharmonic until 2009.
Highlights of the 2024/25 season include the world premiere of MacMillan’s Concerto for Orchestra (co-commissioned by the London Symphony Orchestra, Melbourne Symphony, Royal Stockholm Philharmonic, Auckland Philharmonia and Singapore Symphony) by the London Symphony Orchestra, conducted by Antonio Pappano. MacMillan’s euphonium concerto, Where the Lugar meets the Glaisnock, receives its world premiere by David Childs and BBC National Orchestra of Wales, conducted by MacMillan. Elsewhere this season, MacMillan conducts the Hungarian National Philharmonic, BBC Scottish Symphony and Minnesota Orchestra. This year’s Stockholm Philharmonic Composer Festival is dedicated to MacMillan.
MacMillan founded music festival The Cumnock Tryst in 2014, which takes place annually in his native Ayrshire. In 2024, the Festival celebrate their tenth anniversary by launching their International Summer School for Composers, directed by MacMillan and open to young composers worldwide.
MacMillan has conducted many of his own works on disc for Chandos, BIS and BMG. A recent highlight is a series on Challenge Records, including MacMillan’s violin concerto A Deep but Dazzling Darkness and percussion concerto Veni, Veni, Emmanuel with Colin Currie and the Netherlands Radio Kamer Filharmonie. MacMillan’s recent release on Harmonia Mundi conducting Britten Sinfonia won the 2016 BBC Music Magazine Award.
MacMillan was awarded a CBE in 2004 and a Knighthood in 2015. He was appointed a Fellow of the Ivors Academy in 2024.
The works of Sir James MacMillan are published by Boosey & Hawkes.
Sir James MacMillan is represented by Intermusica.
Jordan Theis
Jordan has been director of music at St Thomas-on-The Bourne since 2022, where he conducts separate boy and girl choristers, an amateur back row and a changing voices group. He is in demand as a choral conductor, regularly working with the National Youth Choirs, Barts Choir, St Botolph-without-Aldgate and Reading University Choirs. He teaches piano and is an accompanist at Guildford High School, and volunteers as a Future Leader with the Cathedral Music Trust.
Richard Hubbard
Richard Hubbard is Music Development Director at St Edmundsbury Cathedral, working with small churches across Suffolk to help them make the best use of music with limited resources. He leads the recently-formed Suffolk Music for Growing Faith network, and directs the inter-church choir Cantus Firmus. He lectures in music for worship at London School of Theology, and is currently working on RSCM’s Music for Smaller Churches project.
The Reverend Sandy Clarke
Sandy has served as Vicar of The Bourne and Tilford for the last two and a half years having also trained as curate in this parish prior to her appointment. Her passion is outreach and working with other churches, something that the choirs at St Thomas-on-The Bourne support in their annual time of travelling Evensong: a season where our church goes out to other churches in the area to share the joy of sung worship.
Lucy Adcock
Lucy Adcock first sang in her local parish church choir at the age of 12, joining her Dad in the choir. She has continued to sing in choirs ever since. Throughout this time she has participated in a RSCM training days and festivals building her music skills, and now finds herself in a voluntary role as her church’s Director of Music. This involves selecting the music programme for services as well as leading the singers and musicians in various combinations and of course continuing to sing as much as possible.
Antony Matthews
Antony has been Director of Music at All Saints’ Carshalton since 2012, conducting a growing amateur church choir, a burgeoning choral scholarship scheme, and newly introduced chorister programme. First starting organ lessons at school, he later studied at Exeter and Bristol, and after with the concert organist Robert Munns. He has been playing the organ at and conducting amateur choirs in parish churches for 25 years, including accompanying tours to cathedrals in the UK and Ireland, and tours to Italy, Germany, The Netherlands and Belgium.
The Reverend Canon Victoria Johnson
Victoria Johnson is Dean of Chapel of St John’s College, Cambridge. Her life in the church began as a parish chorister, earning the RSCM red ribbon and trying to play the organ. Singing and music have been a golden thread running through her ministry, and she believes, a vital part of the church’s mission. She read Theology and Religious Studies at Cambridge University and the Institute of Sacred Music at Yale University, USA. After parish ministry in Manchester, she was made a Residentiary Canon at Ely Cathedral combining the portfolios of mission and pastoral care, as well as directing the cathedral’s community choir. In 2020, she was appointed Canon Precentor of York Minster. She has taught liturgy and homiletics, and served on national church bodies in the areas of mission, public affairs, environment and evangelism. She is a member of the College of Archbishops’ Evangelists, trustee of the Ryedale Festival, Church Music Society, and Honorary Canon Theologian at St Edmundsbury Cathedral. She still sings as cantor at St John’s alongside the world-famous College Choir and in a local Chamber Choir as first soprano. Victoria has recently published her first book, On Voice: Speech, Song, Silence, Human and Divine (DLT, 2024).
Hannah Persaud
Hannah Persaud is the Networks Lead at the Growing Faith Foundation, part of the National Society for Education.
Dr Tim Williams
Dr Tim Williams is Director of Music both at St Wulfram’s Church, Grantham, and at Harlaxton College, Lincolnshire, where he also lectures in music history. He has been at St Wulfram’s for seventeen years, since completing his PhD in Musicology at Cambridge University. During his time at St Wulfram’s, Dr Williams has overseen the development of children’s and teenage choirs, as well as teaching young organ scholars and early career professionals in church music. St Wulfram’s Church Choir has sung in many major UK cathedrals, and has broadcast on BBC Radio 3 Choral Evensong alongside the Gesualdo Six. Highlights of his academic career have included publishing in OUP Early Music, and delivering seminars at the Institute of Sacred Music, Oxford.
Eleanor Jarvis
Eleanor Jarvis is a graduate of the University of Manchester, where she obtained a Bachelor’s degree in music with a focus in vocal studies and conducting under the tutelage of Kathryn Rudge and Robert Guy. She is a committed singer, having been a chorister for 12 years and a past member of Ad Solem Chamber Choir, The Cosmo Singers and the University of Manchester Chorus. Throughout this time, Eleanor has performed in venues such as Westminster Abbey and St Paul’s cathedral and has participated in numerous choir tours to cathedrals across the country and abroad.
As an experienced vocal tutor, choral conductor and musical director, Eleanor enjoys a varied career as a freelance musician in Sheffield and Manchester. She is the Director of Music of the Steel City Choristers, teaches vocal studies at Sheffield College, delivers singing workshops in primary schools with Pimlico Opera and is Director of Music of Sheffield Music Hub’s Youth Voices choir. Across the Pennines in Manchester, Eleanor teaches voice lessons at Semitone Studios and is the Choral and Conducting Tutor at Xaverian College, where she conducts the chamber choir and runs the student conducting programme.
As a freelance conductor, Eleanor has worked with ensembles such as the Sheffield Bach Choir, Hallé Ancoats Community Choir, NEW Voices, Meraki Choir, The Lindow Singers, Crosby Capriol Singers and Semitone Singers, as well as Blackpool Symphony Orchestra.
Eleanor is currently an Emerging Leader with the Royal School of Church Music 2024-2025, assisting at their Residential Choral Course in Bath and participating in various training workshops throughout the year. In recent years Eleanor has participated in several conducting masterclasses with the RNCM, Cardiff International Academy of Conducting as well as Musicfest Aberystwyth. During these masterclasses she has worked with conductors such as David Hill, Stuart Overington, Hilary Davan Wetton, Ellie Slorach, Jonathan Mann and Toby Purser. Eleanor has also worked as an assistant conductor for various projects, including the premier of Paul Mealor’s community opera ‘Gelert’ at the North Wales International Music Festival in 2022.
In her remaining time, Eleanor sings in the choir at St John’s Church Ranmoor, deputises in Sheffield Cathedral Choir and studies voice with Vivien Pike. She has also begun to learn the organ and is junior organ scholar at St Mark’s Church Broomhill.
The Reverend Canon David Fisher
Having sung as a treble in his local church choir in Cheshire, David was ordained in 1998 in Chester Cathedral after ten years in the legal profession, and served his curacy at St George’s Stockport. Two Incumbencies in Chester Diocese followed before moving with his family on his appointment as a Canon Precentor in another diocese. There, he worked closely with the new Director of Music to build up the Boys’ and Girls’ Choirs, fully integrating the Girls’ Choir to sing on alternate Sundays, and establishing a formal Choral Scholarship scheme for local undergraduates. This led to the choir recording a CD and taking part in two live BBC Radio 4 broadcasts.
In 2018, the family moved to London on David’s appointment as Rector of Carshalton. Since arriving there, he has worked with the Director of Music, Antony Matthews, to build up the choir and choral tradition. They established a Choral Scholar scheme for 16-25 year olds and have reintroduced children to the choir. The choir sings each Sunday morning and at the monthly Choral Evensong, as well as on other occasions. Having sung in the Cathedral choirs, both of his children have been Choral Scholars at Carshalton; one is studying Music at University and the other sings bass with the RSCM Youth Choir.
As someone who is passionate about good liturgy, David is a member of the Bishop of Southwark’s Advisory Group for Liturgy and convenes the local Churches Together group.
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